Quintilian Road Traffic Management Proposal - Left-out Only to Brockway Road

Do you live on or use Quintilian Road? Maybe your children attend Quintilian School? A proposal to better manage traffic in the area may be of interest.

In early 2018, community engagement took place to address the concerns of residents and Quintilian School, in relation to the volume of vehicles using the road, vehicle speeds and the road being used as a shortcut between Brockway Road and Stubbs Terrace. This resulted in the construction of speed plateaus. The City also agreed to monitor their effectiveness – the plateaus have resulted in a substantial decrease in speed, marginal decrease in traffic and increase in the proportion of commercial vehicles.

So what now? After reviewing the options, the City’s preference is to partially close Quintilian Road at the Brockway Road intersection. This partial closure would deny access into Quintilian from Brockway Road and Camelia Avenue and support a reduction in traffic volume specifically commercial traffic. It would also allow for the safer anti-clockwise rotation of school traffic for pick-up and drop-off.

How can you get involved, find out more or provide feedback?

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  • Please read the information provided, view the proposed design in the document library and read the FAQs.
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  • Contact the Project Officer (as below) to discuss the proposed options.
  • Complete the survey to provide your feedback - closed
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Please note that all feedback is assessed regardless of the tool (eg. survey, email, letter, submission) that is used. Multiple submissions by an individual is assessed as one submission.

The opportunity to provide feedback closed at 5pm, Monday, 4 March 2019.

Further updates will be provided on this page as the project progresses.

Do you live on or use Quintilian Road? Maybe your children attend Quintilian School? A proposal to better manage traffic in the area may be of interest.

In early 2018, community engagement took place to address the concerns of residents and Quintilian School, in relation to the volume of vehicles using the road, vehicle speeds and the road being used as a shortcut between Brockway Road and Stubbs Terrace. This resulted in the construction of speed plateaus. The City also agreed to monitor their effectiveness – the plateaus have resulted in a substantial decrease in speed, marginal decrease in traffic and increase in the proportion of commercial vehicles.

So what now? After reviewing the options, the City’s preference is to partially close Quintilian Road at the Brockway Road intersection. This partial closure would deny access into Quintilian from Brockway Road and Camelia Avenue and support a reduction in traffic volume specifically commercial traffic. It would also allow for the safer anti-clockwise rotation of school traffic for pick-up and drop-off.

How can you get involved, find out more or provide feedback?

If you are not already registered, please register on the "Register to get involved" tab on this page. This registration enables you to participate in this project and any other projects on this site. The City can also send you up-dates from time to time.

  • Please read the information provided, view the proposed design in the document library and read the FAQs.
  • Ask us Question using the tab below.
  • Contact the Project Officer (as below) to discuss the proposed options.
  • Complete the survey to provide your feedback - closed
  • Please use the feedback tab to provide feedback - closed

Please note that all feedback is assessed regardless of the tool (eg. survey, email, letter, submission) that is used. Multiple submissions by an individual is assessed as one submission.

The opportunity to provide feedback closed at 5pm, Monday, 4 March 2019.

Further updates will be provided on this page as the project progresses.

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  • Has the council considered having the Local Traffic Only designation passed to all the GPS route systems, thereby reducing (the very small) amount of vehicles that use the road as a shorter route? Has the council done traffic surveys for Stubbs Terrace, south of Quintilian road junction? There are frequent tail backs there at school drop off / going to work time? Implementing the proposed clockwise route will funnel many more cars that way. Cars will naturally start to use St Peter's square, a residential area without pavements. If that too is blocked off, road use in this local area will become extremely dense on the remaining roads I do not support the proposal to make Quintilian Road at Brockway, one way. I believe it will have many far reaching negative impacts

    Carolyne Ryall asked about 2 months ago

    Thank you for your question. The change to GPS route systems is not technically feasible and hence not supported by the City. No recent traffic counts have been done on Stubbs Terrace as the issue is focussed on Quintilian Road and there is currently no requirement for traffic counts on adjacent streets to be undertaken. Congestion during school pick up and drop off is a frequent occurrence around schools and to be expected around any school.

  • Can you please update those of us who have registered, and the site here (specifically the key dates) as to progress? I notice that traffic-counting measures are now in place and the ordinary meeting of Council is 2 days away as I type this, will it be discussed there? None of this is reflected on the site right now, nor have I been directly notified even though I've gone to the trouble of registering on this site. What's the point of me registering in anticipation of some engagement and updates?

    GregNockolds asked 30 days ago

    Thank you for your email. Administration have been assessing the outcomes of the engagement and preparing the report for consideration by the Council at the April round of Council meetings. As this date has now been confirmed, the site has been updated accordingly.

  • Dear council thank you for providing your feedback to my questions, my opinion is the proposed solution will affect more people by diverting traffic problems into St Peters Square. While the schools may attempt to educate their stakeholders more and more traffic will be directed into St Peters Square because based on this proposal. I feel the most appropriate road is currently performing its function and will continue to do so in its current format. Your feedback tab is currently missing.

    Slider asked about 2 months ago

    Thank you for your feedback and alerting us to the missing feedback tab. The feedback tab now available. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

  • Do you have hard data on the number of Commercial Vehicles using Quintillian Street and have you allowed enough time for the recent introduction of the 'local traffic only' signs and the 'speed humps' to take effect? As a regular user of the street, traffic is moving quite slowly in this street not only because of the 'speed humps' but also because cars parked on the kerbside necessitate moving cars to slow down and give way to each other. I would have thought these factors would be a deterrent to many commercial vehicle drivers. This street enables access to the major hospitals and to Subiaco and this proposal would have a significant impact on local residents.

    Elroy asked about 2 months ago

    Traffic count data can be found in the Council Report located in the document library on this engagement page. Traffic counts were completed before and after the installation of the speed plateaus. 

  • You mention that a shared path will be considered in another engagement. Is the path planned to be opened at the same time as the closure, and if not, will there be an interim solution to retain bicycle access until the path opens?

    Bsykes380 asked about 2 months ago

    The path is not planned to be opened at the same time as the closure. The proposed interim solution is for cyclists to use the footpath on the south side of Quintilian Road.


  • Has the council considered making the school end of Quintilan a cul de sac with improved parking and a 'kiss and drop' turn around near the Tuart Entrance end of the road. This will allow for school traffic to enter from both directions off Alfred thereby preventing people using St Peter's Square as an accesss via Pimelea Cres and a potential rat run. The school community could also be encouraged to use the under utilised slip way for drop off on Alfred. This option would stop most of the use by heavy vehicles. I have witnesses buses, semi-trailers and large trucks use this road and with a new bus depot being built along Brockway this is only going to get worse. I would dispute that only 5% of the use is commercial as I have lived on this street for nearly nine years and on some days it is a steady stream and often starting at 4am in the morning! It only takes one at speed which they regularly are, to be going past the school before a tragedy occurs and I have witnessed several near misses lately.

    jenny jacklyn asked about 2 months ago

    We assume you are suggesting installing 3 cul-de-sacs at the intersection of Quintilian Road and Tuart Entrance. This is a potential alternative solution although very unusual and there may not be sufficient space in the road reserve.

  • Has the City considered this proposed change will turn other small roads within St Peters Square into rat runs through St Peter Square from commercial, school and train parking traffic as these users seek the fastest routes? I feel these internal St Peters Square roads will then carry this new traffic diverting the issue to another location. specifically Pimelea Crescent, Caladenia Parade and Tuart entrance. I feel the potential for this funnelled traffic of cars could then bank up within St Peters Square with the slower single exit from Quintilian Road for the school traffic with a net negative effect for all stakeholders as the school drop off and pick up traffic would only have one exit from Quintilia road.

    Slider asked 2 months ago

    It is anticipated that there will be increased traffic through Saint Peter’s Square as a result of the proposed change. The school could assist in diverting traffic to the distributor road of Alfred Road and Stubbs Terrace by educating parents of alternative routes.

  • Cutting commercial traffic (buses, trucks) is likely to be achieved but school traffic that currently does not drive the full length of quintilian rd or go through St Peters Square is now likely to given how many school parents use that end of Quintilian Rd. Was a single lane choke point considered at both ends of Quintilian Rd which would reduce commercial traffic and possibly some rat run traffic?

    mjb asked 2 months ago

    The City has already implemented local area traffic calming devices in the way of plateaus with marginal effect on the number of commercial vehicles. 

    A single lane choke point is considered to have similar impact to plateaus in discouraging commercial vehicles.

  • Hello, I'd like to know whether a cyclist slipway within the new no-right-turn kerb has been considered? Cyclists often turn left into Quintilian road from Brockway road to reach the cycle-way along the railway. The current design would prevent this and would introduce an unfortunate disruption to the route commuting cyclists. I suggest that a cyclist slipway could solve this problem without reducing the impact of the new kerb on commercial traffic on Quintilian road.

    oberry asked 2 months ago

    The City is in the process of finalising designs for a future proposed shared path and parking along Quintilian Road. 

    A cyclist slipway or alternative can be considered if the partial closure goes ahead.

    A separate engagement will be conducted at a later date for the shared path and associated changes to parking.

  • I would like the plan to include bicycle access from Camelia Avenue into Quintilian Road and back. We use this route to access the cycle path along the railway line towards the city and also to Aberdare Road to get to UWA. Without this access, cycling times would be significantly longer and less safe from Judaea Gardens.

    Agnes Pallagi asked 2 months ago

    This is being considered as part of designs for a future proposed shared path and parking along Quintilian Road. 

    A separate engagement will be conducted at a later date for the shared path and associated changes to parking.

  • Have you considered allowing for the bike lane running along Brockway road to continue along Quintilian road on the north side of the extended verge? Reasoning: -This road acts as a public access way to Karrakatta train station -Improved bike lane access and improving bicycle safety allowing effective access to main cycle route along the rail line, prior to a congestion point at Alfred rd roundabout.

    Kieran P asked 2 months ago

    The City is in the process of finalising designs for a future proposed shared path and parking along Quintilian Road. 

    A separate engagement will be conducted at a later date for the shared path and associated changes to parking.

  • How can I alter my survey. How many commercial vehicles use the road . Has there been a study done .

    Bobbrien asked 2 months ago

    Please contact the City either by email (council@nedlands.wa.gov.au) regarding your survey. Surveys completed cannot be changed, however we can make a note of your changes.

    The average daily traffic measured over a week found 93 commercial vehicles. The objective of the project is to reduce the number of commercial vehicles in response to requests from residents.

  • There is already provision for a school drop off and pick up. I am totally opposed to this option of left turn only. Has there been consideration of the traffic coming west from Camilla in the afternoons? I am also concerned about the increased traffic on the roundabout at Alfred and Brockway. There is a crash at this roundabout every 3 months. This is due to speed from Brockway north, Alfred Road West and Brockway South. This change to Quintilian does not address the issues that are impacted the area bordered by Stubbs Tce, Alfred Road, and Brockway Road. How do you propose to address this? I also do not understand how changing the traffic from Quintilian into St Peters will be beneficial. There are no footpaths in St Peters forcing people to walk on the road. I note that the report indicate that the school will police this. How is the school expected to police a council road?

    Sue S asked 2 months ago

    It is anticipated that there will be increased traffic through St Peter’s Square as a result of the proposed change. 

    The school could assist in diverting traffic to the distributor road of Alfred Road and Stubbs Terrace by educating parents of alternative routes.

    It is understood that the traffic coming west from Camelia Avenue will need to seek an alternative route which is likely to be Brockway, Alfred and Stubbs.

  • The report indicates that there is only 5% of commercial vehicles per day. This proposal disadvantages 95% of road users for a possible 5%. The report says that there has been concern expressed by ‘the community’. What does that mean? How many complaints is ‘concern’? Is it one or two people who live in Quintillian. What are the financial impacts on real estate in Quintillian if this proposal goes ahead? Is it simply people seeking to improve the value of their property?

    Jang53 asked 2 months ago

    The proposal is in response to complaints received from several residents living on Quintilian and Quintilian School.

    The City cannot comment on the motivation for resident complaints or any potential financial impact on real estate.

  • There have to be other ways to limit ‘commercial vehicles’ without disrupting/disenfranchising local traffic. What do you mean by commercial vehicles? Trucks? taxis? Trades men’s Vans? The traffic calming lumps should have helped. Perhaps just put signs at each end of Quintillian advertising the traffic calming and post 30 km per hr speed limit.

    Jang53 asked 2 months ago

    A commercial vehicle comprises at least one equivalent standard axle. An equivalent standard axle is a dual tyred single axle transmitting a load of approximately 8 tonne.

    Signage is already in place for the installed speed plateaus and any change to the speed limit would be subject to Main Roads approval.

    Where possible, the City’s preference is for changes to the road environment as the over-use of signage can render signs ineffective.


  • The intersection is only busy for school drop off and pick up. Has a roundabout been considered? Has the flow on effect of this proposal been considered? Increased traffic to intersection of Alfred and Montgomery (mount Claremont PS) What is being done about the intersections of Narla and Alfred Road, this intersection is busy 24/7? Rochdale and Asquith St, this intersection is busy 24/7? Thanks for your time

    Georgie asked 2 months ago

    A roundabout has not been considered at this intersection as the primary objective is to limit commercial vehicles using Quintilian Road and not a reduction in traffic speed. The flow on effect of the proposal has been considered and the City anticipates that vehicles will seek alternative routes. There are currently no plans for the Narla/Alfred intersection or the Rochdale/Asquith intersection.