Mt Claremont Oval - Proposal from Westside Wolves Hockey Club
Consultation has concluded
Do you live near, or use, or have an interest in Mt Claremont Oval? If so, the City would like to hear your thoughts the Westside Wolves Hockey Club proposal to build permanent hockey facilities at Mt Claremont Oval.
At the same time, the facilities will still be available for other community groups and other various community activities.
The City is seeking to understand the level of community support for the project and your feedback is important to the City.
This engagement project is to assist with the City's decision-making process on whether to approve a period of time for the hockey club to further investigate and develop a detailed proposal and business plan.
How can you get involved, find out more or provide feedback?
Please:
- Visit the document library and view artist images and site plan of the proposal.
- Ask us a question on the proposal, by using the question tab and we will respond.
- Complete the survey to provide us with your support for or against the proposals. This survey should only take 2 minutes to complete and will be used as the basis of identifying the community's level of support - NOW CLOSED
- Should you need an alternative method of providing your response, please use the City's email (council@nedlands.wa.gov.au) or mail (PO Box 9, Nedlands, 6909), or telephone the Community Engagement Coordinator (Ph. 9273 3500) for assistance. However, the completion of the online survey is preferred.
If you want to stay updated with the progress of this project, and not already a registered participant to Your Voice Nedlands, please register by clicking on the 'Register to get involved' tab at the top of this page.
Please note that all feedback is assessed regardless of the tool (eg. survey, email, letter, submission) that is used. Multiple submissions by an individual is assessed as one submission. All feedback received via email and by letter will also be placed on this engagement page.
Feedback and updates will occur by the News Feed on this engagement page.
Do you live near, or use, or have an interest in Mt Claremont Oval? If so, the City would like to hear your thoughts the Westside Wolves Hockey Club proposal to build permanent hockey facilities at Mt Claremont Oval.
At the same time, the facilities will still be available for other community groups and other various community activities.
The City is seeking to understand the level of community support for the project and your feedback is important to the City.
This engagement project is to assist with the City's decision-making process on whether to approve a period of time for the hockey club to further investigate and develop a detailed proposal and business plan.
How can you get involved, find out more or provide feedback?
Please:
- Visit the document library and view artist images and site plan of the proposal.
- Ask us a question on the proposal, by using the question tab and we will respond.
- Complete the survey to provide us with your support for or against the proposals. This survey should only take 2 minutes to complete and will be used as the basis of identifying the community's level of support - NOW CLOSED
- Should you need an alternative method of providing your response, please use the City's email (council@nedlands.wa.gov.au) or mail (PO Box 9, Nedlands, 6909), or telephone the Community Engagement Coordinator (Ph. 9273 3500) for assistance. However, the completion of the online survey is preferred.
If you want to stay updated with the progress of this project, and not already a registered participant to Your Voice Nedlands, please register by clicking on the 'Register to get involved' tab at the top of this page.
Please note that all feedback is assessed regardless of the tool (eg. survey, email, letter, submission) that is used. Multiple submissions by an individual is assessed as one submission. All feedback received via email and by letter will also be placed on this engagement page.
Feedback and updates will occur by the News Feed on this engagement page.
Do you have a question for the City in relation to this proposal? if so, please ask us here and we will respond.
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Share Why have the Big Red Banners been removed from the oval with at least one week of community consultaion left to run? Don't you want any more of the Community to know about the proposal? on Facebook Share Why have the Big Red Banners been removed from the oval with at least one week of community consultaion left to run? Don't you want any more of the Community to know about the proposal? on Twitter Share Why have the Big Red Banners been removed from the oval with at least one week of community consultaion left to run? Don't you want any more of the Community to know about the proposal? on Linkedin Email Why have the Big Red Banners been removed from the oval with at least one week of community consultaion left to run? Don't you want any more of the Community to know about the proposal? link
Why have the Big Red Banners been removed from the oval with at least one week of community consultaion left to run? Don't you want any more of the Community to know about the proposal?
Bob Moors asked about 6 years agoThe banners were removed because of the graffiti and the inappropriate language and comments placed on them.
The City provided laminated pubic notices at the entrances to the reserve and on the fences.
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Share The three local hockey turfs - Shenton and the two for UWA - each have barbed wire fencing around them as well as far wider spaces between the edge of the pitch and the perimeter fencing than is shown on the artist's impression. With regard to barbed wire can you tell me which is the most correct answer at this stage: 1. There will definitely not be barbed wire. 2. It is too early in the planning process to say. 3. It is to be expected that the fencing will be similar to Shenton and UWA turfs and include barbed wire. Thank you on Facebook Share The three local hockey turfs - Shenton and the two for UWA - each have barbed wire fencing around them as well as far wider spaces between the edge of the pitch and the perimeter fencing than is shown on the artist's impression. With regard to barbed wire can you tell me which is the most correct answer at this stage: 1. There will definitely not be barbed wire. 2. It is too early in the planning process to say. 3. It is to be expected that the fencing will be similar to Shenton and UWA turfs and include barbed wire. Thank you on Twitter Share The three local hockey turfs - Shenton and the two for UWA - each have barbed wire fencing around them as well as far wider spaces between the edge of the pitch and the perimeter fencing than is shown on the artist's impression. With regard to barbed wire can you tell me which is the most correct answer at this stage: 1. There will definitely not be barbed wire. 2. It is too early in the planning process to say. 3. It is to be expected that the fencing will be similar to Shenton and UWA turfs and include barbed wire. Thank you on Linkedin Email The three local hockey turfs - Shenton and the two for UWA - each have barbed wire fencing around them as well as far wider spaces between the edge of the pitch and the perimeter fencing than is shown on the artist's impression. With regard to barbed wire can you tell me which is the most correct answer at this stage: 1. There will definitely not be barbed wire. 2. It is too early in the planning process to say. 3. It is to be expected that the fencing will be similar to Shenton and UWA turfs and include barbed wire. Thank you link
The three local hockey turfs - Shenton and the two for UWA - each have barbed wire fencing around them as well as far wider spaces between the edge of the pitch and the perimeter fencing than is shown on the artist's impression. With regard to barbed wire can you tell me which is the most correct answer at this stage: 1. There will definitely not be barbed wire. 2. It is too early in the planning process to say. 3. It is to be expected that the fencing will be similar to Shenton and UWA turfs and include barbed wire. Thank you
Geoff asked about 6 years agoThank you for your question. It is too early in the process to determine the fencing type. This engagement is to understand the community's views on the concept.
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Share Will survey submissions be accepted up to the close of business Monday 19th 2018? on Facebook Share Will survey submissions be accepted up to the close of business Monday 19th 2018? on Twitter Share Will survey submissions be accepted up to the close of business Monday 19th 2018? on Linkedin Email Will survey submissions be accepted up to the close of business Monday 19th 2018? link
Will survey submissions be accepted up to the close of business Monday 19th 2018?
Bob Moors asked about 6 years agoYes they will.
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Share I understand the Westside Wolves is classified as a 'not for profit organisation', but infact it is a highly profitable corporate business with advanced marketing and multi level business and political connections. Can you provide more information to us about the Westside wolves, their past years financial profits, possibly a copy of their last financial statement? on Facebook Share I understand the Westside Wolves is classified as a 'not for profit organisation', but infact it is a highly profitable corporate business with advanced marketing and multi level business and political connections. Can you provide more information to us about the Westside wolves, their past years financial profits, possibly a copy of their last financial statement? on Twitter Share I understand the Westside Wolves is classified as a 'not for profit organisation', but infact it is a highly profitable corporate business with advanced marketing and multi level business and political connections. Can you provide more information to us about the Westside wolves, their past years financial profits, possibly a copy of their last financial statement? on Linkedin Email I understand the Westside Wolves is classified as a 'not for profit organisation', but infact it is a highly profitable corporate business with advanced marketing and multi level business and political connections. Can you provide more information to us about the Westside wolves, their past years financial profits, possibly a copy of their last financial statement? link
I understand the Westside Wolves is classified as a 'not for profit organisation', but infact it is a highly profitable corporate business with advanced marketing and multi level business and political connections. Can you provide more information to us about the Westside wolves, their past years financial profits, possibly a copy of their last financial statement?
Bob Moors asked about 6 years agoThis information needs to be sought from the the Westside Club themselves. Please visit their website for further information and contact details
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Share Hello, could you please clarify, what policies/documents regulate community engagement projects. Thanks a lot. on Facebook Share Hello, could you please clarify, what policies/documents regulate community engagement projects. Thanks a lot. on Twitter Share Hello, could you please clarify, what policies/documents regulate community engagement projects. Thanks a lot. on Linkedin Email Hello, could you please clarify, what policies/documents regulate community engagement projects. Thanks a lot. link
Hello, could you please clarify, what policies/documents regulate community engagement projects. Thanks a lot.
DK asked about 6 years agoThe City has a community engagement policy and operational documents which guides the development of community engagement projects. The City also uses community engagement methodologies and works within the International Association for Public Practitioners (IAP2) Framework for community engagement.
It should also be understood that establishing sport facilities on designated recreation fields like Mt Claremont Reserve do not legally require any consultation at all. However, Council has undertaken consultation to make the community aware of the proposal to establish a synthetic hockey pitch to raise awareness and seek community feedback as part of its commitment to engage with local residents and affected stakeholders.
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Share The FAQ section would appear to have been written by the Wolves Club (as opposed to Nedlands Council) in a manner that leads to an affirmative bias in place of independent comment. The reader should be made aware that the source of the information contained within the FAQ is the project applicant. An example of the bias is the comment that soccer could move to McGilvray Park whereas in fact soccer is already bursting at the seams at that venue. on Facebook Share The FAQ section would appear to have been written by the Wolves Club (as opposed to Nedlands Council) in a manner that leads to an affirmative bias in place of independent comment. The reader should be made aware that the source of the information contained within the FAQ is the project applicant. An example of the bias is the comment that soccer could move to McGilvray Park whereas in fact soccer is already bursting at the seams at that venue. on Twitter Share The FAQ section would appear to have been written by the Wolves Club (as opposed to Nedlands Council) in a manner that leads to an affirmative bias in place of independent comment. The reader should be made aware that the source of the information contained within the FAQ is the project applicant. An example of the bias is the comment that soccer could move to McGilvray Park whereas in fact soccer is already bursting at the seams at that venue. on Linkedin Email The FAQ section would appear to have been written by the Wolves Club (as opposed to Nedlands Council) in a manner that leads to an affirmative bias in place of independent comment. The reader should be made aware that the source of the information contained within the FAQ is the project applicant. An example of the bias is the comment that soccer could move to McGilvray Park whereas in fact soccer is already bursting at the seams at that venue. link
The FAQ section would appear to have been written by the Wolves Club (as opposed to Nedlands Council) in a manner that leads to an affirmative bias in place of independent comment. The reader should be made aware that the source of the information contained within the FAQ is the project applicant. An example of the bias is the comment that soccer could move to McGilvray Park whereas in fact soccer is already bursting at the seams at that venue.
MCPS2010 asked about 6 years agoThe frequently asked questions have been developed from the report which was presented to the Council at its meeting on 8 October (refer newsfeed). The Westside Wolves have not provided the City with the questions which are presented on this engagement page, however they have provided the artists impressions/concept drawings.
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Share Wolves Hockey Club advertise that it needs a "den" ie a home. Wolves is a very large club - similar in size to UWA Hockey club. UWA Hockey club requires 2 synthetic pitches and 4 grass pitches to service its needs. Given Wolves propose Mt Claremont Oval to be their home this would support an informed source of information that has suggested that this proposal is merely stage one of a larger plan to acquire additional space in the dog exercise area on the other side of Alfred Rd for 2 grass pitches. Given the clear need for more grounds for Wolves, how can local residents be assured that this proposal is not merely a beachhead for a much more substantial future grab of public space in the area? on Facebook Share Wolves Hockey Club advertise that it needs a "den" ie a home. Wolves is a very large club - similar in size to UWA Hockey club. UWA Hockey club requires 2 synthetic pitches and 4 grass pitches to service its needs. Given Wolves propose Mt Claremont Oval to be their home this would support an informed source of information that has suggested that this proposal is merely stage one of a larger plan to acquire additional space in the dog exercise area on the other side of Alfred Rd for 2 grass pitches. Given the clear need for more grounds for Wolves, how can local residents be assured that this proposal is not merely a beachhead for a much more substantial future grab of public space in the area? on Twitter Share Wolves Hockey Club advertise that it needs a "den" ie a home. Wolves is a very large club - similar in size to UWA Hockey club. UWA Hockey club requires 2 synthetic pitches and 4 grass pitches to service its needs. Given Wolves propose Mt Claremont Oval to be their home this would support an informed source of information that has suggested that this proposal is merely stage one of a larger plan to acquire additional space in the dog exercise area on the other side of Alfred Rd for 2 grass pitches. Given the clear need for more grounds for Wolves, how can local residents be assured that this proposal is not merely a beachhead for a much more substantial future grab of public space in the area? on Linkedin Email Wolves Hockey Club advertise that it needs a "den" ie a home. Wolves is a very large club - similar in size to UWA Hockey club. UWA Hockey club requires 2 synthetic pitches and 4 grass pitches to service its needs. Given Wolves propose Mt Claremont Oval to be their home this would support an informed source of information that has suggested that this proposal is merely stage one of a larger plan to acquire additional space in the dog exercise area on the other side of Alfred Rd for 2 grass pitches. Given the clear need for more grounds for Wolves, how can local residents be assured that this proposal is not merely a beachhead for a much more substantial future grab of public space in the area? link
Wolves Hockey Club advertise that it needs a "den" ie a home. Wolves is a very large club - similar in size to UWA Hockey club. UWA Hockey club requires 2 synthetic pitches and 4 grass pitches to service its needs. Given Wolves propose Mt Claremont Oval to be their home this would support an informed source of information that has suggested that this proposal is merely stage one of a larger plan to acquire additional space in the dog exercise area on the other side of Alfred Rd for 2 grass pitches. Given the clear need for more grounds for Wolves, how can local residents be assured that this proposal is not merely a beachhead for a much more substantial future grab of public space in the area?
MCPS2010 asked about 6 years agoThe answers to your questions will be considered at the next stage of the project if the proposal is approved to allow a period of time for the Westside Wolves to prepare a detailed business proposal and designs, including funding sources.
Any proposal to extend to more than one artificial pitch will be considered if and when the question arises. Council processes would be put in place to consult with other users and the community as we do for all projects. The outcome will depend on the issues presented at the time. Council may also reject such a proposal if it thought the project was not suitable at the outset. This is conjecture and there is currently no indication that the current proposal will be expanded at anytime in the future.
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Share To recover development and maintenance costs, synthetic hockey turfs when not utilised by the home club are actively hired out to schools and other hockey clubs either for training or games. From April till late September the fields are used constantly throughout the week from early morning until late evening. Associated with this comes daily use of flood lights, umpire whistles, vocal supporter noise and active on field calling between players. The associated noise is constant which is why the majority of Synthetic pitches are not constructed in close proximity to residential areas. Mt Claremont Oval is at the bottom of a natural sound bowl - in progressing this proposal to public consultation, what consideration has the Council given to establishing and informing local residents of the likely extent and frequency of noise, particularly on still winter nights? Thank you. on Facebook Share To recover development and maintenance costs, synthetic hockey turfs when not utilised by the home club are actively hired out to schools and other hockey clubs either for training or games. From April till late September the fields are used constantly throughout the week from early morning until late evening. Associated with this comes daily use of flood lights, umpire whistles, vocal supporter noise and active on field calling between players. The associated noise is constant which is why the majority of Synthetic pitches are not constructed in close proximity to residential areas. Mt Claremont Oval is at the bottom of a natural sound bowl - in progressing this proposal to public consultation, what consideration has the Council given to establishing and informing local residents of the likely extent and frequency of noise, particularly on still winter nights? Thank you. on Twitter Share To recover development and maintenance costs, synthetic hockey turfs when not utilised by the home club are actively hired out to schools and other hockey clubs either for training or games. From April till late September the fields are used constantly throughout the week from early morning until late evening. Associated with this comes daily use of flood lights, umpire whistles, vocal supporter noise and active on field calling between players. The associated noise is constant which is why the majority of Synthetic pitches are not constructed in close proximity to residential areas. Mt Claremont Oval is at the bottom of a natural sound bowl - in progressing this proposal to public consultation, what consideration has the Council given to establishing and informing local residents of the likely extent and frequency of noise, particularly on still winter nights? Thank you. on Linkedin Email To recover development and maintenance costs, synthetic hockey turfs when not utilised by the home club are actively hired out to schools and other hockey clubs either for training or games. From April till late September the fields are used constantly throughout the week from early morning until late evening. Associated with this comes daily use of flood lights, umpire whistles, vocal supporter noise and active on field calling between players. The associated noise is constant which is why the majority of Synthetic pitches are not constructed in close proximity to residential areas. Mt Claremont Oval is at the bottom of a natural sound bowl - in progressing this proposal to public consultation, what consideration has the Council given to establishing and informing local residents of the likely extent and frequency of noise, particularly on still winter nights? Thank you. link
To recover development and maintenance costs, synthetic hockey turfs when not utilised by the home club are actively hired out to schools and other hockey clubs either for training or games. From April till late September the fields are used constantly throughout the week from early morning until late evening. Associated with this comes daily use of flood lights, umpire whistles, vocal supporter noise and active on field calling between players. The associated noise is constant which is why the majority of Synthetic pitches are not constructed in close proximity to residential areas. Mt Claremont Oval is at the bottom of a natural sound bowl - in progressing this proposal to public consultation, what consideration has the Council given to establishing and informing local residents of the likely extent and frequency of noise, particularly on still winter nights? Thank you.
MCPS2010 asked about 6 years agoThe answers to your questions will be considered at the next stage of the project if the proposal is approved to allow a period of time for the Westside Wolves to prepare a detailed business proposal and designs, including funding sources.
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Share In many of the answers here, to ratepayers questions, the respondent is answering from the viewpoint of the Westside Wolves and in defence of the proposal vs. the ratepayers concerns, taking the proposals questionable details as facts to discount any enquiry, why ? on Facebook Share In many of the answers here, to ratepayers questions, the respondent is answering from the viewpoint of the Westside Wolves and in defence of the proposal vs. the ratepayers concerns, taking the proposals questionable details as facts to discount any enquiry, why ? on Twitter Share In many of the answers here, to ratepayers questions, the respondent is answering from the viewpoint of the Westside Wolves and in defence of the proposal vs. the ratepayers concerns, taking the proposals questionable details as facts to discount any enquiry, why ? on Linkedin Email In many of the answers here, to ratepayers questions, the respondent is answering from the viewpoint of the Westside Wolves and in defence of the proposal vs. the ratepayers concerns, taking the proposals questionable details as facts to discount any enquiry, why ? link
In many of the answers here, to ratepayers questions, the respondent is answering from the viewpoint of the Westside Wolves and in defence of the proposal vs. the ratepayers concerns, taking the proposals questionable details as facts to discount any enquiry, why ?
ED asked about 6 years agoAll responses to questions are being provided without bias to the Westside Wolves Hockey Club. The City is attempting to provide information, although limited at this time as the Westside Wolves have only presented concept drawings which are part of this engagement process.
All detailed information being requested by people cannot be provided at this stage as the project is open to community engagement for the purposes of the City gaining an understanding of the community’s views on the proposal to construct a permanent hockey facility on a portion of Mt Claremont Reserve.
The outcomes will enable the Council to consider the views of the community when making a decision to approve a period of time for the hockey club to further investigate and develop a detailed proposal and business plan. If this stage progress, all detailed requests will be researched and verified as part of this process.
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Share In regards to my previous question about the fact that anyone outside of the local area can have a say, you replied that a street profile can be obtained. That's great, but is there going to be a weighting towards those who are local? I can imagine every hockey club in the metro area would have a vested interest in supporting the proposal as it would reduce demand on other existing turfs, and for the fact that the removal of a green oval in a far away suburb has zero impact on them. I am worried that this is not a fair public consultation process. on Facebook Share In regards to my previous question about the fact that anyone outside of the local area can have a say, you replied that a street profile can be obtained. That's great, but is there going to be a weighting towards those who are local? I can imagine every hockey club in the metro area would have a vested interest in supporting the proposal as it would reduce demand on other existing turfs, and for the fact that the removal of a green oval in a far away suburb has zero impact on them. I am worried that this is not a fair public consultation process. on Twitter Share In regards to my previous question about the fact that anyone outside of the local area can have a say, you replied that a street profile can be obtained. That's great, but is there going to be a weighting towards those who are local? I can imagine every hockey club in the metro area would have a vested interest in supporting the proposal as it would reduce demand on other existing turfs, and for the fact that the removal of a green oval in a far away suburb has zero impact on them. I am worried that this is not a fair public consultation process. on Linkedin Email In regards to my previous question about the fact that anyone outside of the local area can have a say, you replied that a street profile can be obtained. That's great, but is there going to be a weighting towards those who are local? I can imagine every hockey club in the metro area would have a vested interest in supporting the proposal as it would reduce demand on other existing turfs, and for the fact that the removal of a green oval in a far away suburb has zero impact on them. I am worried that this is not a fair public consultation process. link
In regards to my previous question about the fact that anyone outside of the local area can have a say, you replied that a street profile can be obtained. That's great, but is there going to be a weighting towards those who are local? I can imagine every hockey club in the metro area would have a vested interest in supporting the proposal as it would reduce demand on other existing turfs, and for the fact that the removal of a green oval in a far away suburb has zero impact on them. I am worried that this is not a fair public consultation process.
JenC asked about 6 years agoA weighting will not be applied to those people who respond to the survey who are not the immediate residents. The information provided to the Council will include data to show the profile of the people who responded to the survey.
Westside Wolves Hockey Club
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Key Dates
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26 October → 19 November 2018
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20 November → 23 November 2018
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04 December 2018
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18 December 2018